"Amoore100" (amoore100)
10/05/2016 at 21:02 • Filed to: Generation Gap, Honda, Odyssey
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"Amoore100" (amoore100)
10/05/2016 at 21:02 • Filed to: Generation Gap, Honda, Odyssey | 1
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Welcome to Generation Gap where we ask you about your favorite generation of a certain multi-generational car nameplate. Then, explain why your choice is right to the rest of us uneducated folks.
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Last time on Generation Gap we featured the definitive American minivan, the Dodge Grand Caravan/Chrysler Town & Country, which has widely been credited for inventing the minivan category. However, when the Honda Odyssey came to the American market, the second generation minivan quickly became the reviewers’ choice when it came to the best MPV around. Which of these J-series V6 (barring the original) powered beasts is your favorite?
The options:
First Generation [1995 - 1998] RL1
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Second Generation [1999 - 2004] and facelift RL2
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Third Generation [2005 - 2010] and facelift RL3; RL4
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Fourth Generation [2011 - Present] and facelift RL5
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C62030
> Amoore100
10/05/2016 at 21:04 |
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First gen because literally Japanese R-Class
Boxer_4
> Amoore100
10/05/2016 at 21:06 |
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This one:
dogisbadob
> Boxer_4
10/05/2016 at 21:07 |
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the zeroth gen ;)
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dogisbadob
> Amoore100
10/05/2016 at 21:08 |
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The first gen. Duh :p
Even better as the Isuzu Oasis
Also, teh second gen is the worst due to transmission shit
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Boxer_4
> dogisbadob
10/05/2016 at 21:09 |
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I’m also ready for when he does Pilots:
OPPOsaurus WRX
> Amoore100
10/05/2016 at 21:10 |
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I can’t vote. Burn them all
The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
> Amoore100
10/05/2016 at 21:13 |
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The 2nd gen since it was my first car.
f86sabre
> Boxer_4
10/05/2016 at 21:31 |
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Amen. We had two when I was a kid. Amazingballs before amazingballs was a thing.
Probenja
> Amoore100
10/05/2016 at 21:33 |
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I voted for the 1st gen for it’s clean looks, then I realized it’s the only one without sliding doors but it’s too late to change the vote.
The JDM looks quite sharp too:
MonkeePuzzle
> Amoore100
10/05/2016 at 21:42 |
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2nd easy. it got a sliding door, but retaibed most of the simple honda looks i love from the 1st
JCAlan
> Amoore100
10/05/2016 at 22:23 |
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First gen, obv. Think how far ahead of its time it really was. It’s a cross over! What makes a minivan out of the question for so many people, and a cross over or SUV so much better? Sliding doors! It’s literally the only thing that makes minivans lame, and Honda came right out of the gate with a better idea.
Second gen is saddled with the worst transmission ever to come out of Russell’s Point, Ohio. Horrible, just horrible. Replace it at 70k, and then again at 120. Avoid it like the plague.
Third gen is decent, but boring. Meh.
Fifth gen? Seriously? So ugly. Who are you kidding with that hip bump in the rear glass? No one, that’s who. You’re an ugly bloated $50,000 crap wagon.
First gen for lyyyyyyfe.
I may have taken this too seriously.
LongbowMkII
> dogisbadob
10/05/2016 at 22:48 |
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But it looks good. C32/6spd swap and all problems fixed.
flyingmetalbird
> Amoore100
10/05/2016 at 23:19 |
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When I think mini van, I think Astro. Duh
But when I think mini van again, I think second gen odyssey.
Just a classic van. Everybody’s mom has one so all the kids my age drive them and I’ve had some good times in them
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Amoore100
> flyingmetalbird
10/05/2016 at 23:47 |
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Indeed, when I was little everyone had a second-gen Ody, then we got our third-gen in December of 2004 and it was groundbreaking. Turns out minivan interiors don’t have to be made of an unending sea of greyness! Also, less transmission issues. The 3rd gen was the minivan at its most distilled form, then they screwed it up with the new one.
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Amoore100
> JCAlan
10/05/2016 at 23:51 |
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Well the first gen also had a 2.2-3 litre I4 which does not cut it in a 7-seater in America, unlike in Europe where it’s the norm.
The second gen had transmissions which would literally drop out third gear periodically (according to urban legend) so definitely a no-go there. Also, the interior is amazingly dreary and grey, as with most Japanese cars of the late ‘90s to early 2000's.
The third gen is essentially the distillation of the minivan; everything that you need, nothing that you don’t. Reasonable V6, roomy, but nothing super exciting or groundbreaking.
The fourth gen is a stylistic and technological nightmare. The two-screen infotainment is awful, the driving dynamics have worsened, and the entire thing looks hideous as well. Honestly, the Sedona is a much better option now and perhaps even the new Pacifica (the ergonomics in the new Sienna are plasticky and cheap as all hell, and the Quest crashes in a way which will almost certainly kill you.)
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Amoore100
> MonkeePuzzle
10/05/2016 at 23:52 |
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Yep, it’s basically the Accord wagon that the U.S. never got, just taller and with sliding doors.
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Amoore100
> Probenja
10/05/2016 at 23:53 |
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Ugh, the new international Ody is way too overstyled IMO. The old MPV-versions with regular doors looked way better.
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Amoore100
> The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
10/05/2016 at 23:53 |
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For me it’s the third gen since I took my driver’s license test in it.
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Amoore100
> OPPOsaurus WRX
10/05/2016 at 23:54 |
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along with an Allroad?
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Amoore100
> dogisbadob
10/05/2016 at 23:55 |
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JDM yo!
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Amoore100
> C62030
10/05/2016 at 23:56 |
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Nah man, the fourth gen international Odyssey was the definitive Japanese R-Class.
Invinciblejets
> Amoore100
10/06/2016 at 00:05 |
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4th gen.
Forge Crown Victor!
> Boxer_4
10/06/2016 at 00:07 |
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came here to post this and was not disappointed.
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JCAlan
> Amoore100
10/06/2016 at 07:06 |
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A tad underpowered, maybe. But it was small and light by today’s standards. I don’t remember thinking they were dogs back then when I would get behind the wheel. Plus Honda already had all those Accord engines lying around. Frankly that’s a real plus on these, those engines are bullet proof, easy to maintain, and parts are cheap when you need them.
Otherwise, I completely agree with your analysis.
Eric @ opposite-lock.com
> Amoore100
10/06/2016 at 07:23 |
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Honestly, the second gen is most iconic. They were everywhere before their transmissions failed. You still see a lot of them. However, for minivan duty, I’d prefer the fourth gen - more reliable, more creature comforts, safer, etc. All things I’d want to see in a family hauler.
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OPPOsaurus WRX
> Amoore100
10/06/2016 at 07:46 |
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no, i like the Allroad, it also doesn’t murder your soul
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flyingmetalbird
> Amoore100
10/06/2016 at 09:12 |
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I’ve never had any personal experiences with the third gen. I think my dad brought me to test drive one a long time ago when they were newer but that’s it. I’m with ya on the 4th gen though, too weird for me
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Amoore100
> OPPOsaurus WRX
10/06/2016 at 10:17 |
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Hey, at least it ain’t a Sienna.
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Also, you can race an Ody.
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C62030
> Amoore100
10/06/2016 at 16:30 |
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Ooh. Yes. I was not aware of this grotesquely majestic land whale.